Show HN: Run full iOS 16.5 firmware on Android Devices

(github.com)

193 points | by aghuang 4 hours ago

31 comments

  • aghuang 3 hours ago
    I found the website to be quite nauseating to look at, so I decided to use the GitHub link instead.

    But it's quite impressive that it works on QEMU, POCO X5 Pro 5G and some Xiaomi devices too.

    Website is here: https://hackios-web.vercel.app/en

    Source Code: https://github.com/oosexgang/hackios-xnu-kernel

    • Wowfunhappy 20 minutes ago
      Is this not your work? If it's not yours, you should email the mods (footer contact link) so they can remove Show HN from the title. This is a great submission, just not a Show HN.
    • semolino 3 hours ago
      Are those tubal ligation scars on the mascot?
    • dpacmittal 2 hours ago
      I'm surprised Camera works. Even postmarketOS has difficulty with camera on most devices.
    • simlevesque 2 hours ago
      Thank you.
  • zahirbmirza 10 minutes ago
    There was a time that I would have liked iOS to run on other hardware. These days, it is so clunkly, that the the desire is not there.
  • drnick1 1 hour ago
    It's interesting that this can be done, but why would anyone want to run iOS on Android devices? A more desirable outcome would be running a free Android distro like Graphene on Apple hardware. Or indeed just liberating phones controlled by Google by hacking the bootloader and replacing the OS.
    • ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago
      For that warm feeling you get, when Apple turns their legal lasers on you.
    • Wowfunhappy 26 minutes ago
      One thing that occurs to me is this project is a way to get a fully jailbroken iOS. You can tweak the kernel and go nuts. Can't do that on an iPhone.
    • bijowo1676 1 hour ago
      to finally have a Blue iMessage bubble in your group texts
      • gruez 1 hour ago
        That likely doesn't work because they require device attestation to access imessage. It's what killed beeper mini too.
  • dmcrespo 54 minutes ago
    It seems a bit crazy to me, plus now it opens the door to many iPhone copies... we'll have to be very careful
  • sanid 3 hours ago
    This is going to be fun. There are already replica phones for the flagship phones that are running a shitty android version that has been customized to look like iOS. People need to tripple check now when buying older used iPhone models.
    • gruez 3 hours ago
      >Does not work (yet):

      >App Store content and Apple ID sign-in (no Secure Enclave; FairPlay daemon exits)

      That seems like a huge roadblock, even if were able to resolve all the driver/OS issues.

      • mshish 2 hours ago
        I imagine official support for 3rd party app stores might open up some options for easily installing apps. However, that might require the store adding support for this type of iOS install or a newer version of iOS with 3rd party app store support.
        • gruez 2 hours ago
          >I imagine official support for 3rd party app stores might open up some options for easily installing apps

          Given you own the OS, that's not an issue. You can make it pre-jailbroken and load whatever third party app store if you want. The bigger issue is that no app store = no "normie" apps like uber or google maps. I suspect most of the stock apps won't work either because they enforce device attestation on the backend endpoints, so it'll be miserable to use. Note in the maps screenshot, there's nothing behind the modal. It's just blank, suggesting it can't load the map tiles. You'd be better off using an android skinned as ios (possibly vibedcoded) than using this mess.

      • boston_clone 1 hour ago
        also,

        >Does not work (yet)

        >- Cellular, Bluetooth

        >- Charging under our kernel (the phone only discharges)

  • pmkary 3 hours ago
    Someone finally did this, wow! 2026 just keeps getting more crazy.
  • runjake 31 minutes ago
    Important to note that a large percentage of the current versions of A and B-tier iOS apps won't run on an iOS this old.

    But this is still a big step for research purposes.

    • aziaziazi 21 minutes ago
      Happy user of 15.8.8 (05/2026) here. Confirm the lack of many apps but still enough for some users: - maps, google maps, osm clients... - whatsapp, discord, telegram... - bank, raintoday, spotify... - all iOS default apps!
    • nickorlow 29 minutes ago
      I wonder how they landed on 16.5
  • therepanic 39 minutes ago
    I suppose Anthropic has relaxed its safety checks to such an extent that Claude now agrees to port iOS to Android phones?
    • Geof25 27 minutes ago
      ISA - iOS subsystem for Android
      • nickorlow 23 minutes ago
        You mean the Android subsystem for iOS?
  • torben-friis 3 hours ago
    I wonder, why 16.5? (That would be 2023's versión).

    Not to detract from how awesome this is, just curious.

    • MBCook 2 hours ago
      They crank up security every release. Perhaps ones after that were somehow drastically harder?
  • LetsGetTechnicl 28 minutes ago
    I'm getting exhausted from all these AI vibe coded projects. Like this is cool, sure, but it's less cool than if someone had figured out how to do it themselves instead of having Claude do it. It's like chasing the dragon but for coding projects.
    • dudisubekti 8 minutes ago
      You are free to become "more cool" yourself
    • esseph 10 minutes ago
      Different goals and motivations.

      You chase the dragon by figuring out the problems over potentially a long period of time.

      They are figuring out the problems and releasing various levels of POCs in a fraction of the time. It may not all be correct, but with how quick it is, there is plenty of time for refactoring if necessary.

    • bigyabai 15 minutes ago
      > it's less cool than if someone had figured out how to do it themselves

      Those people had 4 years to reverse-engineer iOS 16 on their own terms. I don't think there was any overwhelming technical motivation to spend time on a project like this.

    • ramon156 12 minutes ago
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  • nullpoint420 3 hours ago
    I'm doing the same thing with my Oneplus 6T, I have Claude piloting my phone over adb booting new candidate kernels and checking the results

    What a time to be alive!

  • tamimio 49 minutes ago
    Should be called phockintosh! I don’t see a use case for it but cool concept
    • xchip 48 minutes ago
      The guy who did it is a genius
  • 1f60c 2 hours ago
    There is one, uh, minor drawback:

      > Does not work (yet)
      >
      > Charging under our kernel (the phone only discharges)
    • xandrius 2 hours ago
      Single use OS
      • matneyx 1 hour ago
        The burningest of burners
    • ttul 2 hours ago
      Pack it up and go home, everyone. The alpha-release doesn't chart. Time to throw in the towel. /s
  • bigwheels 2 hours ago
    Why do these demonstrations all stop at iOS 16? What changed with iOS 17?
    • LoganDark 1 hour ago
      Secure Page Table Monitor and Trusted Execution Monitor
  • dj_io 2 hours ago
    Great work. This is neat kind of like age old there used to be hackintosh for macs. Now for ios. With this do you have access to app store. I think there is a unique identifier that android will lack for it to work.
  • jgbuddy 2 hours ago
    Next; IOS will be decompiled and open source
    • xp84 2 hours ago
      I hope that continued advancements in AI make it impossible for outfits like Apple to maintain closed systems that lock the device owner out of having any control over their own hardware. We're obviously not there yet -- I'm sure 1000 things won't work on a device with this running, but it's going to be a game of cat and mouse, and mouse is moving a lot faster than cat can now.
      • mschuster91 2 hours ago
        > I hope that continued advancements in AI make it impossible for outfits like Apple to maintain closed systems that lock the device owner out of having any control over their own hardware.

        Formally verified bootloaders and Secure Boot will make this all but impossible without hardware mods that do voltage glitching. It took 8 years for the checkm8 and usbliter8 exploits to be found, and I think that especially Apple has invested so much money, time and resources into securing their boot chain that the "best" thing we can hope for is a tethered jailbreak allowing a boot into another kernel.

    • compiler-guy 2 hours ago
      Decompiled and easily available if you know where to look? Sure. Seems likely.

      But "Open Source" is a description of the licensing terms, and it ain't gonna be that. Apple will sue hosters into oblivion. It will only be available on pirate sites.

  • jrmg 1 hour ago
    It has an, uh, interesting funding model: “$HACKIOS ON BNB CHAIN The project has its own community token, live on flap.sh. Each trade carries a 1% fee that supports the team and funds development.”
  • hollowonepl 3 hours ago
    Wow, do I smell the opportunity to have IOS analogy to Graphene OS built on top of such concept?
    • gruez 3 hours ago
      No, because iPhones still have locked bootloader, and on an Android phone this Frankenstein of an OS is likely to have worse security than just grapheneos.
  • jgbuddy 3 hours ago
    amazing, but who is OO SEX GANG
    • freedomben 3 hours ago
      my guess is a lot of Java people who refuse to get on the functional train
  • saagarjha 2 hours ago
    Hmm. Maybe small iPhone might be easier to revive than we thought!
  • Velocifyer 2 hours ago
    Can you make a GSI to run on any Android Phone?
  • croes 1 hour ago
    I wonder how many if these AI projects have malware?
    • dmcrespo 52 minutes ago
      That's exactly what I was analyzing. They go viral very quickly, and there's no way to verify if they contain viruses or steal information.
  • embedding-shape 3 hours ago
    What, no, why?! Joking but kind of also not, Apple is terrible at software, amazing at hardware, what the people (me) want is the opposite, Android running on Apple hardware :)
    • cosmic_cheese 2 hours ago
      Opinions vary quite a bit on that. I imagine the appeal of this is similar to that of hackintoshing: Apple software with the diversity of generic hardware.

      Personally speaking as someone who's had to use both platforms in varying capacities in the past decade I do not find myself fond of Android, particularly modern Android. When I booted up an old Android 9 device a few months back I was struck with how much more appeal that version held compared to its contemporary counterpart.

    • wiseowise 13 minutes ago
      > Apple is terrible at software

      You can’t write something like that and then follow up with

      > what the people (me) want is the opposite, Android running on Apple hardware :)

    • TheSkyHasEyes 3 hours ago
      Not with a locked bootloader, not yet anyway.
    • simlevesque 2 hours ago
      Blue bubbles.
  • westurner 3 hours ago
    Does this make it possible to quality control iOS apps without MacOS runners with xcodebuild in CI like GitHub Actions?
    • hard_times 2 hours ago
      • ttul 2 hours ago
        From the site:

        Q: Do the iServices like iCloud, App Store, etc work? A: No, at least not yet. They possibly require something iOS refers to as the “Legacy FairPlay Key Descrambler” AES (hardware) command.

        Extremely subtle hint. Well played.

  • diimdeep 2 hours ago
    Hardware is so powerful, that soon we will be able to run anything using anything, if you have access to whatever you need to run, and access is lacking only if it is streaming content from cloud or hardware encrypted.
  • ost-ing 1 hour ago
    Wow
  • zarmin 1 hour ago
    Amazing. On par with cutting off my leg before playing soccer.
  • sheepscreek 3 hours ago
    Madness. I love it.
    • Grombobulous 3 hours ago
      My “AI is ending the world” feelings are definitely going in another direction in the past few weeks with the reverse engineering, jailbreaking, and porting scene.

      Microsoft, Google, Oracle, etc, just invested all their money into a technology that will make their software worthless. As Ronald McDonald once said, I’m lovin’ it.

      • add-sub-mul-div 3 hours ago
        Was your prior feeling about AI based on the sum total of its negative externalities for society, or its not having produced enough gimmick software projects?
        • Grombobulous 2 hours ago
          My comment as a whole is not meant to be taken this seriously.
      • anthk 2 hours ago
        If you think about it, home users will get free MIT licensed clones for Adobe/Autodesk/Solidworks and Microsoft. The companies will just get trained people in their homes for almost free and they will happily pay for support for Adobe/MS et all.

        - Optimized and ultra-hardened Office for macros and features? Pay.

        - CUDA optimized PS -with inline assembly maybe even from Rust- and more, 24/7 support with a huge Adobe asset pack to start with? Pay.

        • nullpoint420 1 hour ago
          Bold of you to assume we'll still be using Office and Adobe in a few years. What happens when all the MIT solutions here are just a MCP?
  • mossgate 14 minutes ago
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  • akung8x8 1 hour ago
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